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substances, mainly 134Cs and 137Cs, in seawater decreased to a not detectable level within several months, even in the waters around the power plant. The radioactive contamination in the living resources of the waters off the Tohoku region has also declined to not detectable or quite low levels with time. However, in some areas, the concentrations in submarine sediments and some benthic organisms still remain at relatively high levels. We will continue to monitor the radioactive substances and examine their movement in the ocean ecosystems….. http://www.pices.int/publications/book_of_abstracts/PICES-2012-Book-of-Abstracts.pdf Report Comment arclight October 24, 2012 at 8:03 pm Log in to Reply wot no strontium 90?? Report Comment fireguyjeff October 24, 2012 at 9:08 pm Log in to Reply Likely because they intentionally did not measure for it! Report Comment Sickputer October 24, 2012 at 10:02 pm Log in to Reply Thanks Arc… I appreciate you discovering a double speak baldfaced lie in the 382 page document: Bottom of Page 14 to top of page 15: "As one of the effects of this earthquake and tsunami, large amounts of radioactive substances leaked into the North Pacific Ocean from the Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Plant. The concentration of the radioactive substances, mainly 134Cs and 137Cs, in seawater decreased to a not detectable level within several months, even in the waters around the power plant. The radioactive contamination in the living resources of the waters off the Tohoku region has also declined to not detectable or quite low levels with time. However, in some areas, the concentrations in submarine sediments and some benthic organisms still remain at relatively high levels." SP: They lie and then in the next breath admit there are "high levels". Do you think the Symposium attendees ate Fukushima sushi at the $130 Extravaganza Dinner on October 17 (page 7)? I bet not. Chilean bass maybe. Liars in Japan. They would have fooled virtually everyone pre-Internet. But not now. The real history of the world is right here, right now. Not in Big Brother's publications. They live in the past of 500-year old communications. They will not escape the verdict of 2012 historians. Their lies will collapse one day and I will be there to watch them fall. The Matrix Generation of intellectuals are far advanced compared to these feeble prevaricators. Report Comment arclight October 24, 2012 at 10:12 pm Log in to Reply hi sp been busy looking for the WPP propaganda machine and i think i found it.. off to sleep now but i hope you like the presentation.. any advise for improvement? will catch it tommorrow morning night you wonderful lot!! USA -Study will assess cancer risks -Flawed methodology? Media ignoring other studies? the top industry trade group had argued against it, saying the study is “unlikely to produce scientifically defensible results.” http://nuclear-news.net/2012/10/25/usa-study-will-assess-cancer-risks-flawed-methodology-media-ignoring-other-studies/ well the top trade group has pulled the monitoring and they will rely on maths to work out the dosages blah blah like the WHO report on the fukishima children.. same format to cover it up! and its so blatant!! grrrrrrr! peace Report Comment arclight October 24, 2012 at 10:24 pm Log in to Reply how r they going to measure the tuna if they are getting rid of half the manpower and labs? Report Comment arclight October 24, 2012 at 10:41 pm Log in to Reply bit tired now but should mention that the laboratory that is doing the study only reckons they might hire 1 or 2 extra people later in the study.. i wonder if they will be mathematicians? Report Comment Sickputer October 24, 2012 at 10:31 pm Log in to Reply The only reason for the planned $2 million updated radiation effects survey is to keep those up and coming generations of nucleocrat offspring employed. Because the fix is already in: "In a briefing paper, the NRC staff says that given the known amounts of radiation released from nuclear reactors, researchers would not expect to observe any increased cancer risks for nearby residents." SP: Blobzilla and her sisters are coming for you Tokyoites.. One breath, one drink, and one fish at a time. Party like it's 1929…before Dr. Frankenstein set loose the extinction machines. Report Comment PurpleRain October 24, 2012 at 10:41 pm Log in to Reply wow. Excellent share. Thank you so much for this! Report Comment DisasterInterpretationDissorder October 24, 2012 at 7:59 pm Log in to Reply I like to take the opportunity to counter-emphasize to those good scientist about a logical dynamic called accumulation and kindly ask to reword their emphasings to something we can see resonate in reality now or later. Report Comment voltscommissar October 24, 2012 at 8:03 pm Log in to Reply wow I can't keep up! "While Cs-137, which persists for decades in the environment, could come from other possible sources," is a tacit admission that Nnorth Pacific albacore already have trace pollution of Cs-137 from Chernobyl, nuke tests, etc. No surprise that the combined activity of Cs-134 + Cs-137 are not expressed in Bq/kg of tuna meat. Key facts are being withheld by patronizing scientists. Report Comment voltscommissar October 24, 2012 at 8:09 pm Log in to Reply by way of comparison, natural K-40 radiation inside your body is something of the order of 60 to 70 Bq/kg, so any additional radionuclide with activity in that ballpark must be adding a quantifiable incremental risk to getting cancer, in the circumstance where you eat Pacific seafoods on a regular basis, say weekly. Report Comment ChasAha October 24, 2012 at 8:13 pm Log in to Reply from 'snagged' document. keywords: "passive transports, pathways, transport vectors…" "..especially given their capacity to concentrate radionuclides…" "…appropriate action may be taken before significant population effects have occurred." – Do they mean on the fish or people? …or both? Report Comment NoPrevarication October 24, 2012 at 9:46 pm Log in to Reply @ChasAha "…appropriate action may be taken before significant population effects have occurred." I think they mean people. Can't you just see the government jumping up and down at how fast they must act? We grew up near the Gulf Coast of Florida so we ate seafood most of our lives. It never occurred to us that the day would come when this was no longer possible. When the Macondo well blew and BP despoiled the GOM with corexit, I knew we could never eat seafood again and we have not. That was the end of it forever. However, many natives continue to eat GOM and other seafood such as tuna, so the they really needs to study this ASAP. Report Comment TheBigPicture October 24, 2012 at 8:24 pm Log in to Reply Love seafood, but quit eating it after the Diiachi meltdown. Report Comment Molly October 24, 2012 at 8:24 pm Log in to Reply I am finished with eating any seafood that comes from the Pacific or Gulf. Only small, fresh water pan fish. This makes me very sad. And I can only eat the small fresh water fish since I am no longer a candidate for pregancy. Good-bye seafood. I fear we will say good-bye to our food sources one by one. Report Comment dosdos October 24, 2012 at 9:52 pm Log in to Reply Hmmm, there was no mention in the text of the process they used for testing the presence. However, the photo shows collecting blood from a tuna. Radionuclides don't collect in the blood, but rather the meat and the bone. If they are testing the blood only, then of course the readings are barely detectable. Report Comment You must be logged in to post a comment. All 12 quakes to hit Japan today were near Fukushima Prefecture » Register | Login


*Just In* More US tuna contaminated — Study: Entire food web “including humans” may be affected as Fukushima radionuclides spread to West Coast

Published: October 24th, 2012 at 7:27 pm ET
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Source: http://www.pices.int/outgoing/PICES-2012/Abstracts/S11/8703_Brodeur-j.doc

Backup: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:Vj5eDhzn7CgJ:www.pices.int/outgoing/PICES-2012/Abstracts/S11/8703_Brodeur-j.doc+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjGotfpC0ZEwJiS9GUndMw563-NnwTuqsBtLqfK-hw4FHtPXlJL131paSVMypTqYSH-fH54vDtK0SpsIfNPDWKpuuAH2RLc_Cwp7kHf8yH1fNimHJK3SvRZfk_jUOP-tWUA8TaI&sig=AHIEtbSqAcU45LImvzeUkyA9X0HimWcmjw

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Fisheries researcher Jason Phillips bleeds a just-caught albacore tuna into a collection bag (By Cisco Werner, Southwest Fisheries Science Center)
Presented: Oct. 16, 2012 in Hiroshima, Japan
Title: Assessment and characterization of radionuclide concentrations from the Fukushima Reactor release in the plankton and nekton communities of the Northern California Current
Delvan Neville (Oregon St. Univ.), Richard D. Brodeur (NOAA), A. Jason Phillips (OSU) and Kathryn Higley (OSU)
The incident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant released a substantial radioactive contamination into the environment. With the predominant wind and current flow in this part of the North Pacific, these radionuclides will gradually spread to the US West Coast waters after a suitable period of time, with the possibility of affecting food quality throughout the food web (including humans). In addition to the passive transport by currents and winds, the migratory pathways of large pelagic fish extend from Japan to the Northern California Current. These organisms can serve as transport vectors for these nuclides, especially given their capacity to concentrate radionuclides from surrounding waters and prey. [...] By predicting the radio-biologic stress (if any) for a managed species as more Fukushima-related radionuclides are uptaken, appropriate action may be taken before significant population effects have occurred. Determination of natural background concentrations and high quality transport models produced from these data also aid in management in the event of a future accidental release, and in regulating safe activity releases.
Oregon State University Press Release, Oct. 24, 2012:
[...] Phillips spent this summer collecting more fish at sea, off Oregon and Washington, as well as from scientists, fishermen and other sources along the West Coast. [...] As more fish were tested, the results were consistent with the initial findings: No Cs-134 in fish caught before the disaster, but traces of the isotope in a significant number of fish caught since. “This is what we’ve seen after testing about 70 pounds of tuna,” Neville said. [...]
No mention of the actual cesium levels detected in the tuna, only that it’s safe to eat.

KPLU broadcast here

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25 comments to *Just In* More US tuna contaminated — Study: Entire food web “including humans” may be affected as Fukushima radionuclides spread to West Coast

  • papacares papacares
    just in from Oregon State
    http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2012/oct/pacific-albacore-carry-barely-detectable-fingerprints-fukushima-disaster
    (short quote)
    10-24-12
    CORVALLIS, Ore. – Samples of albacore tuna caught off the West Coast of the United States show minute traces of radiation that can be traced to the Fukushima reactor disaster, according to an interdisciplinary team of scientists from Oregon State University and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
    The radiation levels in fish analyzed to date are far below anything that would pose a risk to humans who consume the fish, the research team emphasized. The findings are preliminary; additional fish remain to be tested.


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    • harengus_acidophilus harengus_acidophilus
      I see:
      "far below anything that would pose a risk to humans"
      What about: "no treshold"?
      h.


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      • papacares papacares
        (from the article)
        “What we can say is that we have detected Cs-134 in fish thousands of miles from where that Cs-134 came from, and over a year since it was released,”…. “It's very interesting scientifically, and it can tell us more about tuna migration and what happens to radioactive releases, but it's nowhere near enough to be concerned about food safety.”
        (papa here)
        What is near enough? it is obvious the tuna industry is being impacted by earlier reports released in CA concerning the tuna fisheries and scientific evidence of radiation contamination – fishing is the lifeblood of the Oregon coast so it is interesting the scientists are admitting Cs-134 being found in any tuna, they have only tested a total of 70 pounds so out of the tens of 1000's of tuna being caught they were only able to test +/-7 fish and find Cs-134 which only has a life of say 4 years.
        (again from the article)
        The researchers first identified two Fukushima-linked isotopes – Cesium-137 (Cs-137) and Cesium-134 (Cs-134) – this July, in samples of fish caught and frozen in 2011. (did you catch that frozen fish from2011)
        This particular combination of radioactive isotopes is produced by fission in nuclear reactors, and less commonly, nuclear weapons. Cs-134, in particular, is considered key to the Fukushima nuclear “fingerprint” because it decays very rapidly, with a half-life of just more than two years while Cs-137 persists for decades


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        • PurpleRain
          Do Cesium 137 and/or Cesium 134 radioactive isotopes or nuclides or whatever you call teeny-tiny particles actually Freeze? What is that? How does that work? Can anything on a tiny-scale be killed or rendered harmless in any way regarding the food chain? Any mitigation possibilities here? … just curious and asking/wondering.


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      • moonshellblue moonshellblue
        I would like to know the level that they have found in the Plankton I remember a few months ago a report about plankton levels and thinking shit if it's in the plankton the entire pacific ocean, food chain has been compromised. The first report talks about the plankton and the second report seems more focused on the migratory patterns of tuna. I must say I would strongly advise not eating tuna as I found the repetition of stating how safe the levels of C-134 and 137 are that were detected and most I assume a dash of Strontium basically a devils brew mix. I just Wow. NO NUKES


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  • voltscommissar
    Google cache can still see the "echo", and the abstract appears to have been quoted in full. It only remains to add author details:
    Delvan Neville: Department of Nuclear Engineering and Radiation Health Physics, Oregon State University, Corvallis, OR, 97391, USA. Email: dnevill@gmail.com
    Richard Brodeur: NOAA Northwest Fisheries Science Center, Hatfield Marine Science Center, Newport, OR, 97365, USA
    Jason Phillips: College of Earth, Ocean and Atmospheric Sciences, Oregon State University, Corvallis, OR, 97331, USA
    Kathryn Higley: Department of Nuclear Engineering and Radiation Health Physics, Oregon State University, Corvallis, OR, 97391, USA
    *********************************************************************
    It is a worry when they say "appropriate action may be taken before significant population effects have occurred." For a managed species, the only realistic intervention is to take it off the dinner plate.
    I cannot envisage any sort of "appropriate action" which can magically restore a CHRONICALLY poisoned population of albacore tuna to health and vitality whilst swimming in the North Pacific nuclear sludge bucket. :-(


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  • arclight arclight
    the cache has gone too??
    found this pdf on the symposium though
    As one of the effects of this earthquake and tsunami, large amounts of radioactive substances leaked into the North Pacific Ocean from the Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Plant. The concentration of the radioactive substances, mainly 134Cs and 137Cs, in seawater decreased to a not detectable level within several months, even in the waters around the power plant. The radioactive contamination in the living resources of the waters off the Tohoku region has also declined to not detectable or quite low levels with time. However, in some areas, the concentrations in submarine sediments and some benthic organisms still remain at relatively high levels. We will continue to monitor the radioactive substances and examine their movement in the ocean ecosystems…..
    http://www.pices.int/publications/book_of_abstracts/PICES-2012-Book-of-Abstracts.pdf


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    • Sickputer
      Thanks Arc… I appreciate you discovering a double speak baldfaced lie in the 382 page document:
      Bottom of Page 14 to top of page 15:
      "As one of the effects of this earthquake and tsunami, large amounts of radioactive substances leaked into the North Pacific Ocean from the Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Plant. The concentration of the radioactive substances, mainly 134Cs and 137Cs, in seawater decreased to a not detectable level within several months, even in the waters around the power plant. The radioactive contamination in the living resources of the waters off the Tohoku region has also declined to not detectable or quite low levels with time. However, in some areas, the concentrations in submarine sediments and some benthic organisms still remain at relatively high levels."
      SP: They lie and then in the next breath admit there are "high levels".
      Do you think the Symposium attendees ate Fukushima sushi at the $130 Extravaganza Dinner on October 17 (page 7)? I bet not. Chilean bass maybe.
      Liars in Japan. They would have fooled virtually everyone pre-Internet. But not now. The real history of the world is right here, right now. Not in Big Brother's publications. They live in the past of 500-year old communications.
      They will not escape the verdict of 2012 historians. Their lies will collapse one day and I will be there to watch them fall. The Matrix Generation of intellectuals are far advanced compared to these feeble prevaricators.


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      • arclight arclight
        hi sp been busy looking for the WPP propaganda machine and i think i found it.. off to sleep now but i hope you like the presentation.. any advise for improvement? will catch it tommorrow morning
        night you wonderful lot!!
        USA -Study will assess cancer risks -Flawed methodology? Media ignoring other studies?
        the top industry trade group had argued against it, saying the study is “unlikely to produce scientifically defensible results.”
        http://nuclear-news.net/2012/10/25/usa-study-will-assess-cancer-risks-flawed-methodology-media-ignoring-other-studies/
        well the top trade group has pulled the monitoring and they will rely on maths to work out the dosages blah blah like the WHO report on the fukishima children.. same format to cover it up! and its so blatant!!
        grrrrrrr!
        peace :)


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        • arclight arclight
          how r they going to measure the tuna if they are getting rid of half the manpower and labs?


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        • Sickputer
          The only reason for the planned $2 million updated radiation effects survey is to keep those up and coming generations of nucleocrat offspring employed. Because the fix is already in:
          "In a briefing paper, the NRC staff says that given the known amounts of radiation released from nuclear reactors, researchers would not expect to observe any increased cancer risks for nearby residents."
          SP:
          Blobzilla and her sisters are coming for you Tokyoites.. One breath, one drink, and one fish at a time. Party like it's 1929…before Dr. Frankenstein set loose the extinction machines.


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    • PurpleRain
      wow. Excellent share. Thank you so much for this!


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  • DisasterInterpretationDissorder DisasterInterpretationDissorder
    I like to take the opportunity to counter-emphasize to those good scientist about a logical dynamic called accumulation and kindly ask to reword their emphasings to something we can see resonate in reality now or later.


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  • voltscommissar
    wow I can't keep up!
    "While Cs-137, which persists for decades in the environment, could come from other possible sources," is a tacit admission that Nnorth Pacific albacore already have trace pollution of Cs-137 from Chernobyl, nuke tests, etc.
    No surprise that the combined activity of Cs-134 + Cs-137 are not expressed in Bq/kg of tuna meat. Key facts are being withheld by patronizing scientists.


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    • voltscommissar
      by way of comparison, natural K-40 radiation inside your body is something of the order of 60 to 70 Bq/kg, so any additional radionuclide with activity in that ballpark must be adding a quantifiable incremental risk to getting cancer, in the circumstance where you eat Pacific seafoods on a regular basis, say weekly.


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  • from 'snagged' document.
    keywords:
    "passive transports, pathways, transport vectors…"
    "..especially given their capacity to concentrate radionuclides…"
    "…appropriate action may be taken before significant population effects have occurred."
    – Do they mean on the fish or people? …or both? :(


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    • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication
      @ChasAha
      "…appropriate action may be taken before significant population effects have occurred." I think they mean people. Can't you just see the government jumping up and down at how fast they must act?
      We grew up near the Gulf Coast of Florida so we ate seafood most of our lives. It never occurred to us that the day would come when this was no longer possible. When the Macondo well blew and BP despoiled the GOM with corexit, I knew we could never eat seafood again and we have not. That was the end of it forever. However, many natives continue to eat GOM and other seafood such as tuna, so the they really needs to study this ASAP.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture
    Love seafood, but quit eating it after the Diiachi meltdown.


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  • Molly
    I am finished with eating any seafood that comes from the Pacific or Gulf. Only small, fresh water pan fish. This makes me very sad. And I can only eat the small fresh water fish since I am no longer a candidate for pregancy. Good-bye seafood. I fear we will say good-bye to our food sources one by one.


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  • dosdos dosdos
    Hmmm, there was no mention in the text of the process they used for testing the presence. However, the photo shows collecting blood from a tuna. Radionuclides don't collect in the blood, but rather the meat and the bone. If they are testing the blood only, then of course the readings are barely detectable.


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